2026-11-03 02:53 UTC
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@superfes@lemmy.world 2026-11-03 03:21
Man, I thought it was going to just be a thing about adopting LLMs… that’s fucking off the deep end with that shit.
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@lemmyng@lemmy.world 2026-11-03 02:57
Currently on day four of clearing out my Proton inbox. Moved my files off of Proton Drive, and cancelled my subscription. Next will be changing to a new email alias provider since SimpleLogin is a product of Proton. Fuck em.
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@JetpackJackson@feddit.org 2026-11-03 03:35
I still have a proton mail for random throwaway things, guess this is a good reason to get rid of it
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@Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 2026-11-03 03:31
…but as it turns out, writing and manipulating code is one of the activities for which AI models are most well-suited. Uhhh…wut?
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@Tradwench@thelemmy.club 2026-11-03 04:10
This is so frustrating because I started degoogling exactly a year ago, and had finally managed to get completely free of Google mostly thanks to the proton ecosystem… But it took a whole year! I am just settling. I am a mom of two under-10yo boys in my forties. I don’t have time for this shit. I thought I was gonna die a proton user. Fucking hell.
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@CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social 2026-11-03 04:26
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@warm@kbin.earth 2026-11-03 04:34
Andy Yen and Bart Butler gotta go. There's probably others too. Resign guys. Every minute you dont, Proton digs itself deeper into the hole. Do you care more about the product or your ego?
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@luciferofastora@feddit.org 2026-11-03 05:39
writing great code manually is a core skill whose time has passed. If you’re saying people will no longer have to learn to code… This is not the death of expertise. The LLM is fast. You are slow, but you carry with you a lifetime of experience, judgment calls, and understanding. …then where the fuck is that expertise gonna come from? You are also (hopefully) much less prone to hallucination and being mislead by bad or malicious inputs, and are accountable to yourself, your teammates, and to Proton in a way a model can never be. Together you can do far more, far faster than either can do alone. AI “hallucination” is the product of something that doesn’t know what it’s doing accidentally doing something wrong despite all training in appearing competent. To correct and counteract that, you need people who actually learned what is correct and know their shit. In essence: you need people with experience in writing good code. Even if we accepted the premise that needing to adopt AI would be the only way to survive, this logic is so full of holes that I’m wondering whether an LLM wrote it or whether that’s just the best logic Butler can deliver after outsourcing his thinking to bullshit machines.
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@gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 2026-11-03 05:49
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@shifty@leminal.space 2026-11-03 06:00
What the hell happened at Proton since this announcement in 2024? “…community is the most important thing to us, and we want to ensure that Proton continues to faithfully serve the community for the next 10 years and beyond. To achieve this goal, I, as Proton’s founder, joined together by Jason Stockman (Proton’s co-founder) and Dingchao Lu (Proton’s first employee), have jointly endowed the non-profit Proton Foundation through a donation of Proton shares. These transfers and commitments from the foundation founders make the Proton Foundation the primary shareholder of Proton and make irrevocable our wish that Proton remains in perpetuity an organization that places people ahead of profits.”
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@nightlily@leminal.space 2026-11-03 06:03
This reads like every bad programmer/manager on Lemmy/Reddit that calls me a Luddite every time I push back on their wild assertions about LLMs and code. Absolute clownery.
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@neo2478@sh.itjust.works 2026-11-03 07:32
This is terrible, but what is even worse is that they partnered with a Zionist Swiss university, that supports Israeli military and out criminal sanctions against students protesting against the genocide of Palestinians.
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@Floon@lemmy.ml 2026-11-03 22:34
The real tell here is when Yen berated an engineer who voiced concerns about security, saying “stop finding ways to be slow, start finding ways to be faster”. He’s a C-suite baby who wants what he wants RIGHT NOW! When the suits start acting like engineers who care about best practices are being obstacles instead of valuable stewards of quality, you know you’re dealing with losers who can’t be trusted to not run things into the ground. Any walking back that Yen does now, you know he’s just biding his time to ride out the kerfuffle, and he’s just going to low-key abuse his employees at a slightly slower pace, but he’s going to get what he wants. Canceled my sub, moved my mail.