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2026-11-03 03:22 UTC

Proton users cancel subscriptions following CEO Andy Yen’s “loser thinking” remarks

Replies (19)

  • @chris@lemmy.grey.fail 2026-11-03 03:38

    I’ve been putting it off, because it took me more than a year to migrate away from Gmail. But this is hard to ignore. I’m tired, fam.

    Open ##5512933

  • What a fucking time to be alive.

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  • @kalman@dboft.com 2026-11-03 04:12

    I'm building my own email server. It receives mail, checks it for spam and forgery, stores it securely, lets apps read it, and sends outgoing mail. It handles a lot of domains on one system, with nothing important tied to a single machine, so parts can fail or restart without losing anything. It's written in Rust... for safety, and I'm using AI heavily to write and test the code. It's big, mostly because email has decades of standards and quirks, and every mail client has to work with it.

    Open ##5513413

  • @SecretSauces@lemmy.world 2026-11-03 04:43

    And to think…I ALMOST went through and paid for a subscription a couple of days after I started my migration from Google.

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  • @SecretSauces@lemmy.world 2026-11-03 04:44

    And to think…I ALMOST went through and paid for a subscription a couple of days after I started my migration from Google.

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  • @gdog05@lemmy.world 2026-11-03 05:02

    I have had really good experiences with SimplyMail. Extremely inexpensive, worth the little bit of money for me. I self host stuff, been meaning to look into Stalwart. Looks pretty cool (willing to hear of anyone thinks otherwise).

    Open ##5514152

  • Say and do stupid shit, get stupid prizes. Proton’s reputation has been getting shaky. First it was the poorly worded communication regarding support for Republicans. Then the privacy in question when they handed user’s data over to authorities. Now this. How’s that for loser thinking, Andy?

    Open ##5514470

  • @oce@jlai.lu 2026-11-03 05:24

    This is the quoted article: www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinkin… Andy Yen, the CEO of Proton, had a message for an employee in the company’s security Slack channel who urged the company to at least take a few days to pentest newly written code before pushing it live. “That’s bullshit and loser thinking. Of course it’s possible to be fast and secure,” Yen wrote in the channel at the end of August. “Stop thinking always of how to be slower, and focus more on how to be faster.” In a follow-up message, Yen reiterated his point: “only losers think like that.” His ultimate message for the team was to “stop lovingly handcrafting all our code and use AI more.”

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  • They've started collecting red flags like they were the Soviet Union. Welp, this is the last one I'll watch them pick up, though.

    Open ##5515225

  • @lechekaflan@lemmy.world 2026-11-03 05:45

    傻逼 ! He pays the price for hubris.

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  • @stellargmite@lemmy.world 2026-11-03 05:46

    Yikes i have 100s of mail redirections setup via simplelogin, which proton acquired months after I setup. I was with proton as well seperately , but If that acquisition hadnt happened the switch wouldve been easier. Atleast i havent used much of drive or their office stuff and I stayed with Bitwarden not using pass. Just a bit of calendar . Its going to take ages to point all the services to new emails. Itll be weeks of migrating to do it safely. And im on a duo plan so getting wifey off proton (and she does use pass) is going to be a hassle. Took long enough to get there . A lesson in not sticking many eggs in one basket. Atleast we got off Google after decades of that enshittisphere. Custom domain time too. If i still use a redirector i need to have a system and not setup so many addresses. Wonder if I can keep simplelogin alone while I migrate?

    Open ##5515327

  • @aim_at_me@lemmy.nz 2026-11-03 05:47

    Been using fastmail for the past 5 years. Really happy with the service.

    Open ##5515342

  • @numbermess@fedia.io 2026-11-03 06:04

    I've been trying Proton stuff out off and on for years. I'm gonna quit trying it out.

    Open ##5515669

  • @RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 2026-11-03 06:22

    If they are gonna have no qc and insecure code, they should also lower the price, right?

    Open ##5516056

  • @neo2478@sh.itjust.works 2026-11-03 07:02

    This is terrible, but what is even worse is that they partnered with a Zionist Swiss university, that supports Israeli military and out criminal sanctions against students protesting against the genocide of Palestinians.

    Open ##5516856

  • @MrSulu@lemmy.ml 2026-11-03 07:33

    Mine is paid up for another 8 months and will not be renewed. Im looking at replacements as we speak

    Open ##5517267

  • @Adrien_0715@lemmy.ml 2026-11-04 03:38

    On a side note, he’s smart for letting a lot of people back out of Proton services. The VPN speeds are better now.😆

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  • @AlSweigart@lemmy.zip 2026-11-03 18:02

    The original 404 Media article. 404 Media is a great publication with a strong track record. They are worth paying for.

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  • What other email service is free and not a pos? Does one exist? Gotta pay to play I gues…

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